Archaeologist David Rohl claims to have found the site described in Genesis as "Eden" in a lush valley beneath an extinct volcano in northern Iran. The Jerusalem Report (February 1, 1999) broke the story in the article -- "Paradise Found."
Ten miles from the sprawling Iranian industrial city of Tabriz, to the northwest of Teheran, says British archaeologist David Rohl, he has found the site of the Biblical garden . . . "As you descend a narrow mountain path, you see a beautiful alpine valley, just like the Bible describes it, with terraced orchards on its slopes, crowded with every kind of fruit-laden tree," says Rohl, a scholar of University College, London, The Biblical word gan (as in Gan Eden) means `walled garden,' " Rohl continues, "and the valley is indeed walled in by towering mountains." The highest of these is Mt. Sahand, a snow-capped extinct volcano that Rohl identifies as the Prophet Ezekiel's Mountain of God, where the Lord resides among `red-hot coals' (Ezekiel 28:11-19). Cascading down the once-fiery mountain, precisely echoing Ezekiel, is a small river, the Adji Chay (the name of which also translates in local dialect as 'walled garden'). The locals still hold the mountain sacred, Rohl says, and attribute magical powers to the river's water.
In order to make the journey to this most remote location, one must travel from western Iran, north through the Zagros Mountains of Iranian Kurdistan, down Mt. Sahand, and into the fertile Adji Chay valley. The Jerusalem Report article gives a number of geographical locations. What made Rohl look in this location in the first place? One factor was that he read about it in ancient Sumerian cuneiform clay tablets held by the Museum of the Orient in Istanbul. The other factor was the work of the late, little-known British scholar Reginald Walker. The ancient tablets described a 5,000 year-old route to Eden. He has been researching the location since the late 1980's through academic documents.
In April 1997 Rohl did something very remarkable to prove his point. He set out from the Iranian town of Ahwaz, near the northern tip of the Persian Gulf, with only his jeep driver for company. According to the article:
They traveled north toward Kurdistan through what Rohl calls `lawless' terrain, trusting to luck to avoid the various guerilla factions active in the region. Rohl followed a route, documented in the Sumerian cuneiform epic `Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta,' supposedly taken 5,000 years earlier by an emissary of the Sumerian priest-king of Uruk. The emissary had been dispatched to Aratta, on the plain of `Edin' -- known to Sumerians as a land of happiness and plenty -- to obtain gold and lapis lazuli to decorate a temple that Enmerkar was building in Uruk. The cuneiform epic describes the dutiful emissary's three-month trek on foot via seven passes through the Zagros Mountains, to the foothills of Mt. Sahand -- the southern edge of Rohl's Eden -- and his successful procurement of the required valuable.
The Garden described in the Bible places the headwaters of four rivers in it: the Tigris, the Euphrates, the Gihon, and the Pishon. Obviously, the Tigris and Euphrates are well-known rivers, but the other two have been real problems in the past. Rohl has identified them as the Araxes and Uizhun which puts the headwaters of all four rivers in his Eden. Interestingly, the Uizhun, Rohl's equivalent to the Pishon which the Bibles identifies with gold, is known locally as the Golden River, and meanders between ancient gold mines and lodes of lapis lazuli.
Making his case even stronger, Rohl says that he has found the "Land of Nod" which the Bible describes as "East of Eden." Nod was Cain's place of exile after the murder of his brother Abel. Today the area is called "Noqdi."
But it doesn't end there because a few kilometers south of Rohl's Nod, at the head of a mountain pass, lies the sleepy town of Helabad. Formerly it was known as "Kheruabad," which means "settlement of the Kheru people." He believes that this could be a permutation of the Hebrew word keruvim that is translated as "Cherubs." These people were a tribe of fearsome warriors whose token was an eagle or falcon.
Modern scholars have argued that the Genesis stories were just myths and should be looked upon in an allegorical sense. Rohl's discovery is now essentially seeking to push back the start of history all the way to the beginning of the Book of Genesis. Since the Bible scrupulously documents the specifics of the garden's location and its surroundings, says Rohl, why shouldn't we take those descriptions at face value? "I consider the Bible a historical document just like the writings of Herodotus or a text of Rameses II," says Rohl. "It's ridiculous to throw it in the dustbin just because it's a religious text. If so strong a tradition evolves out of the past, it is likely to have a genuine geographical setting."
Eden exists in all wild places. I live in the wild and off the land like Adam and Eve and all thier future descendants did for millennia. I hunt with stome tools, I have no modern tools, besides my laptop. I use it to help document my life, like a journal in pictures and words. I am writing this on it while in town visiting friends. Anyway Eden is just as fresh and wild as it ever was. The actual place where dam lived has long since been lost to history. I fish, I harvest wild plants and I make my home in a cave. I live in southwest Utah, USA. I rarely use money, my SSi retirement fund. I mostly get all I need from the wilderness. Last fall I took an elk and then dried the meat for the winter. I got about 900 lbs of meat and all the bones and his antlers which I use for tool making. I will be tanning his hide and making clothing from it next spring. So you want to find Eden? Look in the wildest places you can and its still there.
First thought: if god had provided some damn apples, then they would not have had to eat from that tree. LOL.
About the most convincing biblical documentary I've seen since he approached it from a multi-cultural archaeological and linguistically academic point of view with science to back up his findings. However, I'm not here to start a science v religion war. Believe how you like. I believe him, science and evolution, though. There was no great deluge. We would not be here and it would require 5x the amount of H (hydrogen) that is present. It would have altered our entire atmosphere, drowning all creatures. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. H only changes form from aqueous to gaseous to vapor. We do have evidence of a great deluge that happened in the Middle east which during those times, would've seemed to be worldwide. It would not have washed away the garden and there are certainly no Cherubs to keep us out.
Even if there were Cherubs, it would only apply to those who believe in them because the only power things or people have is the power we give them.
Naw come on now.... Wow I don't think you even have used your imagination or have the cherubim's quite right at all here ... As we do also see the same image as was here in the garden also it was on top of the ark of the covenant as the two golden Angels and the flaming sword of God's word and his presence that standing in the middle of the two cherubim's ...the Malach Adonai and this Was our Jesus before his birth ..this also seen in the transfiguration ,and on the cross but instead of angels now here there are men on each side the flaming sword in the garden is the Angel of the Lord and the word of God just as Jesus was called in the new testament
There is a book called The First Book of Adam and Eve which tells of their life outside the garden after they were expelled. They lived in a cave outside the east gate and they often went back to the east gate pleading to God to let them back into the garden. I wonder if that cave can also be found near here.
And if you read the Bible in its true form you could probably see about where it is ..You Won't be able to Go there!!! Cherubim aren't going to let Anyone in! They wont break Gods Rules....
Also if you read Exodus in Original language you Can walk where Moses did...Exactly...
Can't do That with the KJV....
I have an Old one and nope.
However i just recently read Torah and Wow soo much detail Love it
Adam was a perfect man. The mandate was given to him to have full responsibility for the future generations. He was banned from the garden because he wilfully chose to disregard the gift. All other humans were not perfect, so the tree of life would not make them live forever. The ban was only against Adam as a reminder of the damage he had caused to the human family, Eden would be in the same area as when life began just as Noah and his sons where brought into the same location in the Ark.
THIS VERSION OR.....LITTLE CELL, LITTLE FISH LOOKING THING SWIMMING, LIZZARD LOOKING THING COMES OUT OF WATER, MYSTERY, THEN MONKEY, MONKEY STANDS ON TWO FEET, HALF MONKEY, WEIRD MONKEY, LESS MONKEY, EVEN LESS MONKEY, HALFWAY HUMAN, KIND OF HUMAN, ALMOST HUMAN, WEIRD HUMAN, DONE HUMAN!!! SO WE WERE FISH, LIZZARD, THEN MONKEY....NEVER SEEN FISH TURN INTO LIZZARD THEN MONKEYS!!
I THINK THAT Y'ALL ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS MOTHER FUCKERS AND GODAMND YOU LOT AND FUCK YOU AMERICA AND HARRY OF WHALES AND MARK-O-POLO CAN SUCK A MEAN DICK I'VE HEARD MAYBE I SHOULD FIND OUT AND PIMP MY HO'S!!!
I noticed the negative revues of this well developed narrative of god's creation of mankind. I have watched most of your lectures on your study of biblical history. This one, being the most informative as it was done on the hoof.
The location of eden would be identified by its description in the bible. The mineral content, its protected environment of humidity to
To protect the human family as it was to flourish over the earth. The red earth, which has all the elements that make up the human
form. No writer of the information we have 6000 years later could have known the biology of the profound creation to provide and
prepare for the greatest of Jehovah's projects. Let us make man in our own image. Genesis 1:26-31.
Geñesis 3:23&24 before the birth of Cain and Abel. The chronology from Adam to Jesus is 4000 years exaçtly. The recording of births, reigns and deaths were accurately copied for posterity
I have much enjoyed your objective and positive portrait of the begining of human history in visual format. Note that when the flood occurred Jehovah started the begining from Noah in the same area
The male transmits sin to his offspring, both males and females. Though a woman is born into sin, with the sin nature, she is not the one who passes sin down to the next generation, genetically, or spiritually. This is why the Bible says that in Adam all have sinned, not in Eve, who is called the mother of all living. Thus Mary, born into sin like any other, bore sinless Jesus. Jesus couldn't receive the sin nature from her because it isn't passed down to children by their mother. His Father, being perfect,righteous and holy God could not pass the sin nature down to him, thus Jesus was born without sin. This is why The Bible concentrates on the importance of Adam having been banished from the garden of eden, because he passes sin down to the next generation. It could not be for a sinful male to live forever passing that vastly wicked, evil state onto all generations who then would have been condemned to live as wicked slime forever. The LORD would likely have had to banish Adam to eternal solitary confinement if he had eaten from the tree of life in his sinful, fallen state. He was saved by being allowed to die.
It seems that there may have been a large plain or eden in which The Garden of Eden, or the garden of the plain, may have been located, thus the confusion between the actual garden and the entire plain.
SIR, INQUISITIVE MIND IS GOOD, OTHERWISE WHAT DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO SEEK ETERNAL TRUTH. BUT WE SHOULD KNOW OUR LIMITS. WE ARE FLESH AND BLOOD. WE OUGHT TO DEPEND ON THE ALMIGHTY GOD, THE HOLLY SCRIPTURE. LET SCRIPTURE EXPLAIN SCRIPTURE !! NOT OUR STUPID BRAIN. SCRIPTURE SAYS BEFORE ADAM AND EVE THE EARTH WAS RULED BY AN ANOINTED CHERUB. NOW, EZEKIEL 28__13 SAYS THIS CHERUB WAS, "IN EADEN, THE GARDEN OF GOD. WHERE IS EADEN? SCRIPTURE SAYS" GOD HAS SET THIS CHERUB LATER( SERPENT MEANING =CONNECTING WITH LIGHT IN HEBREW) UP ON THE HOLY MOUNTAIN OF GOD. SIR, THROUGH OUT THE SCRIPTURE "HOLY MOUNTAIN OF GOD IS NUN OTHER THAN JERUSALEM". SEVERAL TIMES IT IS REPEATED!! STILL WE STUPID HUMANS GROUPING IN DARKNESS, TO OVER SMART THE ALMIGHTY GOD. OTHER WISE WHY THE ANTI CHRIST WANTED TO CONQUER AND SIT IN THE THIRD TEMPLE. OF COURSE THE NOE'S FLOOD CHANGEDTHE GEOLOGY. ONLY AFTER THE SECOND COMING OF YESHUA EVERY THING WILL BE REVEALED. WE MUST HAVE PATIENCE.
What if that was not the place of Eden? Well..i have read some of the apocrypha, one of the ancient manuscript which written down the Book of Adam and Eve I and II.
Its said that the place where theyre cast out from the Eden were sandry and rocky. Adam and his wife was so depressed with themselves since theyre sins, and they dont know what is that place where theyre casting out by the Lord was.
In the Book of Adam and Eve I, they enter the cave which called as Cave of Treasure and Adam fainted in the cave where both of them was praying to God inside. The Book of Adam and Eve I tells more details about the place where theyre cast away from the Garden of Eden.
I already found the Eden. So go back to sleep. ROFL 😂😂😂
It's.not what you think is right. Yes it is true the Eden exists but it is not what you think it is.
I found the fountain of youth too. But as I said it's not what you think it is. Stop spreading lies.
Eden Garden ? Which one? There are 7 roots races on the Earth, did they come from this one Eden Garden or each race had own Eden Garden? One was in the Inner Earth, one in Hyperborea, one in Africa and finally in Mesopotamia. Did I missed others? How about Lilith, the first wife if Adam? Will we ever learn the truth? Why this stuff is hidden from us?
Now let`s get this straight, Adam and Eve after being expelled from Eden had two sons, Cain and Abel, Cain murdered Abel then left home and found a wife, nobody can explain where the wife came from. Jesus (as God) impregnated his mother (Mary) in order that she could give birth to himself. Jesus brought the rotting corpse of Lazarus back to life, Why did he do this? Jesus walked on water and fed the multitude on a few fish and bread rolls, then he died and brought himself back to life for a few days, we haven`t seen him since. Noah put two of every species of animal on Earth into a boat and they floated around without eating each other until the water dispersed, where did the water disappear to? How did he get Australian kangaroos, wombats, echidnas, koalas and emus over to the Middle East so that he could load them onto his boat? These are just a few of the nonsensical stories that we are expected to believe on face value, If you had never heard of religion and I told you these silly childish stories you would dismiss me as being mentally disturbed but you expect me to believe this bullshit because it is written in a contradictory old book that nobody knows who the authors were. Every time I attempt to debate so called Christians their responses amount to "It is written in the Bible" and they quote some text that can be interpreted dozens of different ways, or some more of my favorites "You are infested with demons", "Satan will burn you and pull out your toenails while we watch with glee from above" "Jesus really loves you but he is teaching you a lesson by casting you into Hell to be burnt and tortured for eternity" etc. etc. etc. If you can remember what it was like before you were born then that is what it will be like after you are dead.
Of course the great flood must have erased the garden long before the Persians built the city of Tabriz there, that is also why they were able to get in without any cherubim to block the way.
Nevertheless, this is the only proposal for the garden's location that keeps all the characteristics given in Genesis. Great production.
Great job Mr David Rohl !!
The reason why life threatening viruses are so hard to eradicate is because they could change their DNA so fast that our pharmaceutical development just could not keep up. That's evolution, and it is not BS. I believe the garden did exist, but the landscape and the related geography have changed over thousands of years that it was lost in time. And that too is related to evolution.
In as much as God is a multidimensional being, why do we constantly look for a 3 dimensional Eden? There are Angels who are guarding the entrance to Eden so that none may enter. They have been there since almost forever. Has anyone ever seen anything like 2 angels guarding Eden? Not a chance. Thus, it may be that Eden is no a physical place within our 3 dimensions.
Problem: Adam and Eve didn't live 6 thousand years ago, they lived millions and millions of years ago. Also Cain and Able were born AFTER Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden. If you're going to teach about the bible maybe you should actually read and learn what you are talking about? This is pure propaganda by the hand of satan to mislead and misguide humans from God.
This is ridiculous. How can these grown men, intelligent men, be so naive? Or do they have an agenda?
Eden would have been totally destroyed by the flood, which completely changed the face of the earth. I'm certain God would not have preserved Eden. The geological piece of land might still be under the rubble of the flood somewhere. But it may not even be part of the middle east anymore since the continents split and the mountains rose.
This nonsensical programme left me aghast with its stupidity. Statements such as, "the three great Abrahamic faiths accept the Garden of Eden" (or some such phrase); and then the sudden jump from 3,000 BC to the 7th Century CE, as though Islam had existed all this time. It only put in an appearance in the 7th Century! Only fundamentalists 'accept' the existence of an ancient, lost 'Garden of Eden'. No 'modern' Christian accepts it: and - if they did - what species would the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" be? Is it around today? These pseudo-intellectuals are, I suspect, covert Christian, or Jewish, fundamentalists, desperately trying to cling on to their belief-system. The two principal Creation Stories in Genesis (the Yahwist and the Elohist versions) do not require 'factual' or 'historical' exactitude for their validity. Myth can convey truth.
Secondly, Cain as much as Abel made sacrifices to the creator god to please him, offering him things that he liked.Cain offered vegetables and Abel animals, lambs for example. According to the bible the creator god preferred
the latter: the blood from the dead animals and the smell of burnt flesh of the corpse.
The Bible says that the creator was pleased by Abel’s sacrifices but not by Cain’s. It appeared that Cain had little desire to please the creator since he only
offered him a few seeds and with little devotion, as if he wasn’t entirely convinced of the usefulness of making sacrifices. Naturally then, Abel’s sacrifices were accepted by the creator and Cain’s weren’t.
Cain is superior to Abel. Cain is the son of Eve and Lucifer, the initiatory Serpent of Eden. Cain is the so of the Spirit and of flesh. Abel, on the contrary, is born only from flesh. Therefore we can see first of all that Cain is not someone evil but that in fact he is superior, important, and much more so than Abel.
Distorted to say the least. Ask yourself..why would God banish men from a garden to have it today replaced by buildings? He could've just left them there in the first place to allow them to continue to degrade creation. The Garden of Eden was translated to Heaven and will be restored to mankind as their gift as He the Lord gave to them before the fall. It will descend from Heaven out from God.
Haha, what nonsense, the garden of Eden was washed away in the flood and the entire topography of planet earth was changed. Cain committed two grievous sins, "anger against his brother without just cause, and the obvious, murder".
In search of a paradise?? You can only eat fruits in the Garden of Eden. You don' have clothes. You don't care about nothing cause you can't form subjective judgement of good and bad. Basically you have turned into an eat-sleep machine. Are you sure you want to go back to the Garden of Eden?
It blows my mind how successful the whole Bible Hoax is to this day. Apparently it takes not much to make simple minded people without strength and culture keep calm. Nice stories in the Bible- almost as catching as the Lord of the Rings....but before anyone starts to believe the Christian Religion, people should rather take the Lord of Rings as real....makes way more sense. Newsflash for everyone: There isn't a white bearded Grandpa sitting behing the clouds and made this all work...and if it really is, then this guy did a really crappy job and has no clue of evolution....LOL!!!
in Ice Age Europe ( Hohle Fels Cave 42 000 BC ), the First Modern Man he awoke in consciousness with the possibility of an abstract understanding of the world and religion. This is evidenced by the world's oldest religious abstract art.
well dont believe that the garden will still ever be there .....and even if it is still there , dont think that we able to go in there , because we dont deserve it to go in again .....if there will be a garden anyway , than its our earth witch we use to take care for in state of ruin it selfs as we do all together now these days ....make wars and hate eachother , with going passed by our Lord and not believe in Him anymore , doing our own will and lived our own life's thinking that we are better than God !!
First up I see a big difference between God the accountant of creation (genesis 1) and LORD god the accountant of Generations (Genesis 2) No mention in story 1 of how many he made male and female, it's just asummed they numbered 2 because of the second story. Second, we have all been told as children 'THEY' were evicted in story 2, and yet there is not a single word in any of it that suggest Eve was evicted with Adam.....And third. What if the rivers mentioned were famous in a completely different story that existed long ago, which Moses read, and before the Library of Alexandria was distroyed. What if the rivers with the same names today, got their names because of some famous story that was lost to us between Moses writing of them, and us researching them?
"The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"
Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
(1 Corinthians 1:20)
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
The Eden paradise is a metaphorical term meaning according to original Hebrew is a spot on earth that held the presence of God. The only way to re-enter original Eden is thru a transformed mind. Human mind and thinking replaced with divine mind. Only then will we discover ourselves living in Eden on earth.
Syria greater Syria was united under one king Syria was many small kingdom and greatest civilisation ever developed on the planet with no Jewish no Jewish existed in the middle east some body altered the history of bible stories Jewish was not existed in our historical Syria Kurdish was a criminals for years was not productive
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